FO4 LO Survival Guide Changelog



About Vault Dweller's Load Order Survival Guide

A Vault Dweller's Load Order Survival Guide is designed to help players find the best, most stable load order for their Fallout 4 game by emphasizing load order planning and game modification placement, followed by maintenance and optimization of load orders. Within the pages is a guide with categories for players to use for mod placement, useful tips, tricks, and cautions while using Fallout 4 game modifications.

The document began as a master list of categories in February of 2017 with a set of mods taken from various working and stable load orders. While it is geared towards console players, it is the intention of the document to be as comprehensive as possible and the information contained within can be used by all platforms.

All questions regarding the Survival Guide should be directed to the Official Parent Thread. If you wish for load order guidance, use the worksheet linked below and post your load order to the Parent Thread.

If you need assistance with Skyrim load orders, seek out Tarsh Gaming for the Skyrim equivalent.

Articles to Specific Questions (ASQ)

Downtown Boston Issues | 4k Texture Problems | Save Errors | Disabled Precombines | Power Grid Corruption

Load Order Links

Official Parent Thread of the Load Order Survival Guide, maintained by thejeepdriver
Shortened URL: https://tinyurl.com/y8cg5tcd

Load Order Survival Guide Google Worksheet, maintained by thejeepdriver

Fallout 4 Load Order Framework: A Vault Dweller's Load Order Survival Guide
Shortened URL: https://tinyurl.com/FO4LoadOrderFramework

Load Order FAQ, maintained by oddlittleturtle

About the Changelog

This serves as a linkable changelog for the Fallout 4 Load Order Framework: A Vault Dweller's Load Order Survival Guide. (Formerly known as The Fallout 4 Load Order Master List or the Fallout 4 Load Order FAQ and Framework).

Over the past three years, many changes, editions, edits, etc. were added. Unfortunately they were all tucked away in the Updated Load Order FAQ and Assistance - All Platforms thread at the official Bethesda.net Community Forums.

Notable Updates and Changes

October 17, 2020 - Updated important info about Cheat Terminal and the infinite loop when using certain scripted mods at the same time.

September 17, 2020 - bookmarked Framework categories for easier linking

May 13, 2020  - 
Title page:
Jeep's blank templates added to the first page. Some extra Mom Words added for clarity.

Alphabetized the special thanks. There was never an order to them, now it's at least orderly.

Forward changes:
Rewording, grammar edits, discord blurb for xbox users since I'm more on discord than Bethesda website these days. May remove later. I'd prefer to keep info in a more public place for all platforms.

Creation club section title shortened. How Do I Remove Creation Club Content? section added. Formatting to installation section adjusted and section title added. 

Useful links updates:
Added new links to forums for information about optimization system and added Bethesda support's twitter and status page in light of the mod servers going down.

About document changes:
About This Document changed to About This Guide. Reworded first section and changed section name to What is the Load Order Survival Guide?

Reworded There are seven things... section and changed the name to There Are Seven Things To Keep in Mind When Designing a Load Order.

The Categories renamed to Framework Categories and the categories with descriptions of what types of mods go in them (long overdue).

Rewording to Mod You Want to Use Not Listed.

Modding 101 changes:
Rewording to What Are Mods and What is Load Order.
Added examples of incompatibilities.

Xbox One X limitations blurb added to Best Practices.

Frequently Asked Questions Section added. Some is Jeep's stuff from the Parent Thread OP, some is mine.
Questions so far: 

  • What is the difference between installing and enabling a mod?
  • What is the difference between deleting and disabling a mod?
  • How many mods can I download?
  • What is the difference between a 'clean save', a 'dirty save', and a 'vanilla save'?
  • What is the cache?
  • How do I clear my cache?
  • When should I clear my console's cache or rebuild my PS4 database?
  • Why is my game crashing?

Had forgotten that there was already Precombined section in the PC Appendix that I'd written last September. Merged the old section with the new. (still needs refining) Renamed to Optimizations System Conflict Resolution.

Best Practices when Using Scripted mods - Don't uninstall/disable.

Using the in-game mod menu - Added a blurb to the first paragraph that had never gotten in for some reason or another.

My Game Crashed! name changed to Troubleshooting Crashes

Master list changes:
Name change of Master List to Load Order Survival Framework. Not really a master list. The mods lists are examples of where to start testing mods for your load order.

Added Fast Starts and Frameworks category under Master Files. Skk.50's fast starts will go there as well as Commonwealth Contraband. PS4 players will need to let us know if there are any mods that are frameworks for them.

Settlement building mods without script injection - 
Powered Objects - AKA mods that affect the power grid and will corrupt saves if removed improperly (maybe removed at all) in the middle of a play through
Workshop Assignable
Pure Decorations

Menu-Scripted Building mods (still working on it)
AKA mods that will break workshop menus if uninstalled incorrectly
Mods moved - Gore Galore!, Lights with Shadows & Beam Effects, DFEP

Removed tentative LO for Landscape/Grass mods - They be nightmare fuel. Testing is required for any of them. Landscape section itself has moved directly above scrapping mods but it is a very fluid section because of the optimization system.

Grammar-related minor derpage underped, rederped, and derped again throughout.


May 11, 2020

After 6 months update hiatus, new previs and precombined reference section added. A new Xbox One mod that made changes to landscape data warranted it.

Updates to Warnings and Cautions regarding landscape data changes and precombined data.

Xbox One X limitations added to Best Modding Practices.

Minor grammar and spelling corrections.

Survival Save Error section begun, but not yet added to the main document.

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Sept 27, 2019

Sept 20, 2019

Sept 13, 2019

Aug 5, 2019

May 1, 2019 - Started back up with updates after a long hiatus. Changelogs for 3/29/19 and 4/22/19